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{ "episode": { "guest": "Jeremy Henrickson", "expertise_tags": [ "product leadership", "scaling organizations", "crypto/blockchain", "HR tech", "global expansion", "platform architecture", "decision-making culture", "PM hiring" ], "summary": "Jeremy Henrickson, SVP of Product at Rippling and former CPO at Coinbase, discusses maintaining velocity at scale through small focused teams, building products for complex use cases first rather than MVPs, and fostering a culture of fast decision-making. He shares lessons from leading Coinbase through 40x growth during the 2017 crypto boom, the compound startup philosophy underlying Rippling's multi-product platform, and the importance of product leaders becoming world experts in their domains by going deep into problems rather than delegating.", "key_frameworks": [ "compound startup model", "small teams with clear missions", "design for most complex use case first", "go and see leadership principle", "imperatives-based prioritization", "disagree and commit decision-making", "single system of record architecture" ] }, "topics": [ { "id": "topic_1", "title": "Leading through 40x growth at Coinbase during crypto boom", "summary": "Jeremy reflects on leading the product team at Coinbase during 2017 when crypto usage exploded 40x, managing rapid scaling while maintaining security and focus despite external uncertainty and market chaos.", "timestamp_start": "00:04:11", "timestamp_end": "00:08:52", "line_start": 25, "line_end": 69 }, { "id": "topic_2", "title": "Maintaining velocity at scale through team structure", "summary": "Jeremy outlines four key approaches to maintaining velocity as companies scale: small teams with clear missions, investing in clear platforms, diving deep into problems as a leader, and maintaining the right distribution of experience and seniority on teams.", "timestamp_start": "00:09:12", "timestamp_end": "00:12:07", "line_start": 73, "line_end": 84 }, { "id": "topic_3", "title": "Small team product development model at Rippling", "summary": "Jeremy explains Rippling's approach to launching new products: finding an entrepreneurial engineer founder, pairing with a designer, recruiting 2-4 engineers, and building from blank sheet to launch in 6-9 months with minimal scope creep.", "timestamp_start": "00:12:20", "timestamp_end": "00:18:03", "line_start": 94, "line_end": 156 }, { "id": "topic_4", "title": "Designing products for complex use cases instead of MVPs", "summary": "Jeremy argues against building minimum viable products, advocating instead for designing to support the most complex use case first (like 10,000-person global companies) while still shipping quickly, to avoid costly architectural rework.", "timestamp_start": "00:18:16", "timestamp_end": "00:20:39", "line_start": 160, "line_end": 169 }, { "id": "topic_5", "title": "Global payroll product example of complex-first design", "summary": "Jeremy describes how Rippling built global payroll by designing for six diverse countries simultaneously rather than copying the US approach, creating a 80/20 platform where 80% is reusable and 20% is country-specific.", "timestamp_start": "00:20:49", "timestamp_end": "00:22:27", "line_start": 172, "line_end": 177 }, { "id": "topic_6", "title": "Compound startup philosophy and single system of record", "summary": "Jeremy explains how Rippling's differentiation comes from being multiple businesses built on a unified platform with one data source of truth, enabling product capabilities impossible for vertical-specific companies.", "timestamp_start": "00:23:40", "timestamp_end": "00:27:09", "line_start": 193, "line_end": 207 }, { "id": "topic_7", "title": "Speed of decision-making culture", "summary": "Jeremy emphasizes that Rippling's core differentiator is the speed at which decisions are made, from founder modeling to leadership principles that prioritize immediate decision-making over scheduling future meetings.", "timestamp_start": "00:27:15", "timestamp_end": "00:30:34", "line_start": 211, "line_end": 231 }, { "id": "topic_8", "title": "Leadership principles and organizational values", "summary": "Jeremy discusses Rippling's codified leadership principles derived from studying what makes people successful at the company, including 'go and see', 'leaders are right a lot', and prioritizing speed and decision-making.", "timestamp_start": "00:30:42", "timestamp_end": "00:31:23", "line_start": 235, "line_end": 237 }, { "id": "topic_9", "title": "Go and see: becoming world expert through deep work", "summary": "Jeremy explains the 'go and see' principle where product leaders must personally dive deep into problems rather than delegating, becoming the world expert first before hiring specialists, using global payroll and tax systems as examples.", "timestamp_start": "00:34:03", "timestamp_end": "00:37:24", "line_start": 256, "line_end": 282 }, { "id": "topic_10", "title": "Time allocation for deep product expertise", "summary": "Jeremy discusses how product leaders should spend roughly 40 of 80 hours per week on deep domain expertise, arguing it's impossible to make good decisions without becoming a world expert in your product area.", "timestamp_start": "00:37:42", "timestamp_end": "00:38:42", "line_start": 286, "line_end": 288 }, { "id": "topic_11", "title": "Leaders are right a lot principle", "summary": "Jeremy explains why 'leaders are right a lot' is a core principle at Rippling, emphasizing that product decisions have company-wide impact and must reflect sound judgment under ambiguity and incomplete information.", "timestamp_start": "00:38:52", "timestamp_end": "00:40:28", "line_start": 292, "line_end": 303 }, { "id": "topic_12", "title": "International expansion strategy and market selection", "summary": "Jeremy outlines how Rippling prioritizes international markets by analyzing customer demand from existing US customers, then stack-ranking countries by demand and difficulty, starting global expansion earlier than competitors.", "timestamp_start": "00:40:55", "timestamp_end": "00:44:06", "line_start": 313, "line_end": 327 }, { "id": "topic_13", "title": "Localization challenges and respecting country differences", "summary": "Jeremy emphasizes the most surprising aspect of international expansion: every country is truly unique and requires respect for local context, with examples from spelling differences to regulatory sensitive data handling.", "timestamp_start": "00:44:16", "timestamp_end": "00:45:32", "line_start": 331, "line_end": 336 }, { "id": "topic_14", "title": "Anti-dogmatism on frameworks and processes", "summary": "Jeremy argues against blindly applying frameworks, preferring instead to choose process and structure based on specific team context and lifecycle needs, using quarterly planning and Jira as the only company-wide requirements.", "timestamp_start": "00:45:54", "timestamp_end": "00:48:08", "line_start": 346, "line_end": 357 }, { "id": "topic_15", "title": "Coinbase vs Rippling product development differences", "summary": "Jeremy compares the more reactive, debate-heavy process at Coinbase (due to crypto uncertainty) versus the more direct execution focus at Rippling where the target is clear but execution complexity is paramount.", "timestamp_start": "00:48:17", "timestamp_end": "00:51:00", "line_start": 361, "line_end": 384 }, { "id": "topic_16", "title": "PM case study interviews and testing mental agility", "summary": "Jeremy describes the importance of case studies with deliberately incomplete information to test how candidates handle assumptions and adapt when requirements change, a key signal for working at Rippling.", "timestamp_start": "00:53:00", "timestamp_end": "00:54:42", "line_start": 418, "line_end": 426 }, { "id": "topic_17", "title": "Evaluating PMs through quality of questions asked", "summary": "Jeremy emphasizes that the quality and insightfulness of questions candidates ask is highly indicative of their interest, research depth, and ability to think strategically about the business.", "timestamp_start": "00:54:49", "timestamp_end": "00:56:49", "line_start": 430, "line_end": 441 }, { "id": "topic_18", "title": "PM interview process and hiring best practices", "summary": "Jeremy outlines Rippling's streamlined PM hiring process: initial contact, conversation with hiring manager, product discussion with Jeremy, case study, and emphasis on what questions candidates ask in return.", "timestamp_start": "00:57:01", "timestamp_end": "00:58:30", "line_start": 445, "line_end": 450 }, { "id": "topic_19", "title": "Advice for early-career PMs: humility and continuous learning", "summary": "Jeremy advises early-career product managers to maintain humility, acknowledge what they don't know, stay curious, and be willing to change their minds when presented with new information.", "timestamp_start": "00:58:41", "timestamp_end": "01:00:19", "line_start": 454, "line_end": 465 }, { "id": "topic_20", "title": "Working with strong-opinion founders as a product leader", "summary": "Jeremy discusses adaptability, mutual respect, and being open to challenge as key to successfully partnering with opinionated founders like Parker, describing himself as a 'moldable puzzle piece' in working relationships.", "timestamp_start": "01:00:47", "timestamp_end": "01:02:06", "line_start": 469, "line_end": 474 }, { "id": "topic_21", "title": "Imperatives-based prioritization system", "summary": "Jeremy describes implementing 'imperatives'—a force-ranked list of company-wide priorities that all teams must integrate into their own planning, creating focus and clarity across product and engineering.", "timestamp_start": "01:05:20", "timestamp_end": "01:06:33", "line_start": 550, "line_end": 569 } ], "insights": [ { "id": "i1", "text": "Where you really learn where the challenges are, the problems or the successes is by just being there with the people in the trenches on one of the things, whichever one seems hardest or most complicated.", "context": "Jeremy emphasizes the importance of leaders diving deep rather than delegating", "topic_id": "topic_2", "line_start": 77, "line_end": 77 }, { "id": "i2", "text": "You have to be able to have those debates because lots is going on, but then you have to be able to come out of those conversations with a clear kind of company point of view that you're all shooting toward.", "context": "Managing uncertainty and alignment at Coinbase during rapid growth", "topic_id": "topic_1", "line_start": 50, "line_end": 50 }, { "id": "i3", "text": "Small teams with clear missions minimize horizontal communication and allow for rapid execution", "context": "First principle for maintaining velocity at scale", "topic_id": "topic_2", "line_start": 74, "line_end": 74 }, { "id": "i4", "text": "When you design a minimum viable product, you're optimizing for speed, which minimizes deeper product thinking about what can fully differentiate your product", "context": "Explaining why Rippling avoids MVPs", "topic_id": "topic_4", "line_start": 161, "line_end": 161 }, { "id": "i5", "text": "If you're only thinking through the simple cases as an engineer, you're going to make different architectural assumptions that become difficult to unwind after six months or a year of building on top of them", "context": "Long-term cost of short-term optimization in product design", "topic_id": "topic_4", "line_start": 164, "line_end": 164 }, { "id": "i6", "text": "Design for the most complex use case first, even if you're not going to support it in the first version, so you don't prevent yourself from getting there in the future", "context": "Core principle for Rippling's product architecture", "topic_id": "topic_4", "line_start": 167, "line_end": 167 }, { "id": "i7", "text": "The fundamental contention is having a single system of record is better for many reasons—you can't build permissioning systems, you can't reliably know reporting relationships without it", "context": "Explaining compound startup differentiation", "topic_id": "topic_6", "line_start": 203, "line_end": 203 }, { "id": "i8", "text": "Rippling's ability to differentiate boils down to the decision to have all data in one place, which allows us to do things literally impossible for any other company", "context": "Single system of record as core competitive advantage", "topic_id": "topic_6", "line_start": 206, "line_end": 206 }, { "id": "i9", "text": "No company at any scale has operated at the tempo Rippling does—not scheduling meetings but making decisions immediately in Slack or by calling in necessary people", "context": "Describing Rippling's decision-making speed culture", "topic_id": "topic_7", "line_start": 212, "line_end": 212 }, { "id": "i10", "text": "If you know your domain deeply as a product leader, you can answer immediately or with 30 minutes of research instead of coming back three days later", "context": "How expertise enables speed of decision-making", "topic_id": "topic_7", "line_start": 224, "line_end": 224 }, { "id": "i11", "text": "When a decision date passes, you move on and don't let lateness retroactively make everyone react—this is shocking to new people but reinforces the culture", "context": "Enforcing decision-making deadlines at Rippling", "topic_id": "topic_7", "line_start": 230, "line_end": 230 }, { "id": "i12", "text": "Product leaders should spend roughly 40 out of 80 hours per week becoming a world expert in their domain through deep work", "context": "Time allocation for building expertise vs management", "topic_id": "topic_10", "line_start": 287, "line_end": 287 }, { "id": "i13", "text": "You can't really understand a product unless you've gone deep into it—what's the point of writing a document if you don't know what you're talking about?", "context": "Justifying investment of time in becoming world expert", "topic_id": "topic_10", "line_start": 287, "line_end": 287 }, { "id": "i14", "text": "Product leaders have to be right most of the time because their decisions reflect across the entire org and spend time and energy—if they make bad ones, the company doesn't do well", "context": "Explaining importance of 'leaders are right a lot' principle", "topic_id": "topic_11", "line_start": 299, "line_end": 299 }, { "id": "i15", "text": "Being able to go into ambiguous situations with incomplete information and complex decision spaces and say confidently 'this is where we need to go' is extremely valuable", "context": "Key skill for successful product leaders", "topic_id": "topic_11", "line_start": 299, "line_end": 299 }, { "id": "i16", "text": "You should expand internationally earlier than you think you need to because it's harder than people realize and takes a long time to absorb cultural lessons", "context": "Timing for international expansion", "topic_id": "topic_12", "line_start": 323 }, { "id": "i17", "text": "Every country is truly unique and finds it insulting when you try to apply your home market approach—you have to respect local context", "context": "Most surprising lesson from international expansion", "topic_id": "topic_13", "line_start": 332, "line_end": 332 }, { "id": "i18", "text": "Small details like spelling, social security numbers in demos, and translation quality matter enormously for credibility in new markets", "context": "Details that signal respect for local market", "topic_id": "topic_13", "line_start": 332, "line_end": 332 }, { "id": "i19", "text": "Frameworks are helpful but dangerous when used as substitution for deep product thinking—you need just enough process to enable good decisions", "context": "Pragmatic approach to frameworks and processes", "topic_id": "topic_14", "line_start": 347, "line_end": 347 }, { "id": "i20", "text": "Categorizing everything in Jira doesn't make good prioritization decisions—you need data, analysis, and the ability to decide what's important", "context": "Limits of process and tools for decision-making", "topic_id": "topic_14", "line_start": 347, "line_end": 347 }, { "id": "i21", "text": "The right amount of process for a team depends on their specific lifecycle—different teams need different frameworks", "context": "Context-dependent approach to process", "topic_id": "topic_14", "line_start": 347, "line_end": 347 }, { "id": "i22", "text": "At Rippling, velocity is higher than Coinbase not because people work harder but because there's less ambiguity about what needs to be built", "context": "Comparing execution speed across different contexts", "topic_id": "topic_15", "line_start": 368, "line_end": 368 }, { "id": "i23", "text": "During PM interviews, how people react when assumptions change—how quickly they understand implications—is indicative of how mentally agile they are", "context": "Testing mental flexibility in PM interviews", "topic_id": "topic_16", "line_start": 419, "line_end": 419 }, { "id": "i24", "text": "The quality of questions candidates ask is highly indicative of their interest in the job, research depth, and business thinking", "context": "Questions as signal in PM hiring", "topic_id": "topic_17", "line_start": 422, "line_end": 422 }, { "id": "i25", "text": "When an interview candidate asks an insightful question you hadn't thought of, it signals you probably have a good candidate—they're making you better", "context": "Interview signal detection", "topic_id": "topic_17", "line_start": 425, "line_end": 425 }, { "id": "i26", "text": "Great product leaders think about the bigger business and strategic implications, not just the immediate product feature", "context": "What separates good PMs from great ones", "topic_id": "topic_17", "line_start": 437, "line_end": 437 }, { "id": "i27", "text": "Humility is one of the biggest differentiators in early-career leaders—acknowledging what you don't know and staying open to absorbing new information", "context": "Advice for early-career PMs", "topic_id": "topic_19", "line_start": 455, "line_end": 455 }, { "id": "i28", "text": "Great leaders change their minds a lot when presented with new information and can simply say 'I was wrong' without defensiveness", "context": "Important trait in high-performing product leaders", "topic_id": "topic_19", "line_start": 464, "line_end": 464 }, { "id": "i29", "text": "Product leaders need to be adaptable and able to work with founders' personalities and idiosyncrasies—think of yourself as a 'moldable puzzle piece'", "context": "Working successfully with strong-opinion founders", "topic_id": "topic_20", "line_start": 473, "line_end": 473 }, { "id": "i30", "text": "Imperatives—a force-ranked list of cross-company priorities everyone must factor into their plans—creates more focus and clarity than letting teams choose independently", "context": "Novel prioritization mechanism at Rippling", "topic_id": "topic_21", "line_start": 551, "line_end": 551 } ], "examples": [ { "id": "ex1", "explicit_text": "At Coinbase, which at the time had an exchange just like on-ramp and off-ramp from fiat to crypto and back experienced over the course of 2017 40 x growth in usage.", "inferred_identity": "Coinbase", "confidence": "100", "tags": [ "Coinbase", "crypto exchange", "growth", "2017", "40x scaling", "product leadership", "infrastructure" ], "lesson": "Demonstrates challenges of scaling infrastructure and decision-making during extreme growth periods; importance of maintaining focus on security and quality during expansion", "topic_id": "topic_1", "line_start": 26, "line_end": 26 }, { "id": "ex2", "explicit_text": "One example is maybe three years ago when I was just starting at the company, we decided that we needed to build a time and attendance product... And those four people over the course of maybe nine months or so, built a time and attendance product.", "inferred_identity": "Rippling", "confidence": "100", "tags": [ "Rippling", "time and attendance", "small team", "product launch", "four engineers", "nine months", "zero-to-one" ], "lesson": "Small focused teams with minimal scope can ship complex products quickly; the model of pairing an entrepreneurial engineer with CEO involvement and a designer works well for new product launches", "topic_id": "topic_3", "line_start": 94, "line_end": 98 }, { "id": "ex3", "explicit_text": "I think a great example of this at Rippling is our global payroll product. We could have said, 'Hey, look, we just need to support this one country. We need to support, whatever, the UK,' let's say... But what it means is that now our global payroll system, adding a country is, it's not easy, but it's a lot easier than it would've been if you had to continue to stamp out and replicate.", "inferred_identity": "Rippling", "confidence": "100", "tags": [ "Rippling", "global payroll", "platform architecture", "6 countries", "design for complex first", "UK expansion", "compliance", "contractor management" ], "lesson": "Designing for the hardest case first (6 diverse countries) creates a platform where adding countries becomes configurable rather than requiring engineering changes; 80/20 rule of 80% platform + 20% configuration", "topic_id": "topic_5", "line_start": 173, "line_end": 176 }, { "id": "ex4", "explicit_text": "In the early days of our global efforts, when we were first trying to figure out what global payroll was, it was really tempting to say, 'Oh, well we're going to go into the UK and that's going to be relatively similar to what we're doing in the US.' But our kind of head of payroll went in and said, actually, here are the ways in which we knew it was going to be different, but here are the ways in which we didn't anticipate that it was going to be different.", "inferred_identity": "Rippling", "confidence": "95", "tags": [ "Rippling", "global expansion", "UK market", "payroll", "go and see", "local expertise", "tax systems" ], "lesson": "Going deep on a single market reveals unexpected complexity that changes your entire approach; you can't anticipate all differences without doing the work", "topic_id": "topic_9", "line_start": 257, "line_end": 260 }, { "id": "ex5", "explicit_text": "Every country does tax filings, every country does them slightly differently, but how are we going to build a tax filing system that's going to allow us to satisfy the needs of every country in which we're going to run payroll?... It's like, okay, let's go and open up the big old... the big old textbook and look like it's, or you're in the United States, it's like you have to go look at Ohio or Pennsylvania, which have all these little local city or county based taxes.", "inferred_identity": "Rippling", "confidence": "100", "tags": [ "Rippling", "tax systems", "global payroll", "regulatory", "local taxes", "Pennsylvania", "Ohio", "compliance" ], "lesson": "Product leaders must study the actual mechanics of systems (tax codes, regulatory requirements) to understand what architecture is needed; you don't know what you don't know until you look", "topic_id": "topic_9", "line_start": 260, "line_end": 272 }, { "id": "ex6", "explicit_text": "I remember about three years ago I was interviewing a guy named Kyle Boston and Kyle is now runs our platform product organization. And I can't remember the specific question he asked, but it had something to do with, wait a minute, if you have all these products and you have this employee system of record thing underneath it, we be thinking about how to create these various pillars of underlying platform technology.", "inferred_identity": "Kyle Boston at Rippling", "confidence": "100", "tags": [ "Rippling", "Kyle Boston", "platform architecture", "interview", "systems thinking", "employee system of record", "hiring" ], "lesson": "Candidates who ask insightful questions about the business architecture after limited context show exceptional thinking ability; asking the right question signals ability to think strategically", "topic_id": "topic_17", "line_start": 431, "line_end": 434 }, { "id": "ex7", "explicit_text": "The first company I was really at out of school's company called Reactivity back in internet one era, and we were trying to figure out how does this internet thing work and how do we start companies on the basis of these tech new technologies... And that company fundamentally didn't work out, ultimately got kind of spun itself out and got acquired.", "inferred_identity": "Reactivity (Jeremy Henrickson's first company)", "confidence": "100", "tags": [ "Reactivity", "internet era", "startup failure", "acquisition", "early career", "learning", "founding experience" ], "lesson": "Failed ventures provide foundational learning that compounds into future success; the value of working with exceptional people and absorbing lessons outweighs traditional financial outcomes", "topic_id": "topic_15", "line_start": 395, "line_end": 395 }, { "id": "ex8", "explicit_text": "My wife's computer broke the other day and I realized it was the CPU cooler that went bad and the Corsair H60 CPU cooler was super easy to use and really adaptable to lots of motherboards.", "inferred_identity": "Corsair H60", "confidence": "100", "tags": [ "Corsair H60", "CPU cooler", "hardware", "product design", "ease of use", "adaptability" ], "lesson": "Great products solve problems with simplicity and adaptability; this reflects Jeremy's product philosophy of designing for multiple use cases", "topic_id": "topic_21", "line_start": 527, "line_end": 527 }, { "id": "ex9", "explicit_text": "My other favorite product is the one I'm wearing in my ears right now, which my first pair of nice headphones I ever bought died late last week, and had to do some really quick research into my new favorite pair of headphones. And these Focal Bathys are super nice. I'm a bit of an audio file. I like to listen to classical music and ambient stuff, so we need a lot of dynamic range and noise cancellation and these have been great so far.", "inferred_identity": "Focal Bathys headphones", "confidence": "100", "tags": [ "Focal Bathys", "headphones", "audio", "noise cancellation", "luxury product", "user experience" ], "lesson": "Quality products that solve specific user needs (audio fidelity for listening to classical and ambient music) demonstrate thoughtful design", "topic_id": "topic_21", "line_start": 527, "line_end": 527 }, { "id": "ex10", "explicit_text": "My son, I'm a big board gamer and while I didn't push it on him, my son, he will play board games morning to night. And so we play a lot of European strategy games together... We just finished as a family playing Pandemic Legacy and the reward tomorrow night as we get to start playing Gloomhaven.", "inferred_identity": "Jeremy Henrickson's children and family activities", "confidence": "100", "tags": [ "board games", "Pandemic Legacy", "Gloomhaven", "European games", "family", "strategy games" ], "lesson": "Complex, compound systems (like board games with legacy mechanics and tactical depth) appeal to people who think systemically; this mirrors Jeremy's approach to product design", "topic_id": "topic_21", "line_start": 581, "line_end": 581 }, { "id": "ex11", "explicit_text": "At Guidewire in the [inaudible 00:44:23] and remains the most surprising thing to most people every time I do this again, is that every country is unique. You can't just take your US-based approach and drop it into another country.", "inferred_identity": "Guidewire (Jeremy's previous company before Coinbase/Rippling)", "confidence": "95", "tags": [ "Guidewire", "international expansion", "localization", "market adaptation", "global business" ], "lesson": "International expansion requires respect for local context; templates don't work across markets", "topic_id": "topic_13", "line_start": 332, "line_end": 332 }, { "id": "ex12", "explicit_text": "If you ever see a demo delivered to somebody in another country where they see a detailed screen about a person and it includes a social security number, it's like that you immediately lose credibility.", "inferred_identity": "Social security number in EU demo", "confidence": "90", "tags": [ "international demo", "privacy", "data sensitivity", "compliance", "EU", "credibility", "regulatory" ], "lesson": "Details that show respect for local regulations and privacy concerns are critical to credibility; small oversights signal lack of understanding of local context", "topic_id": "topic_13", "line_start": 332, "line_end": 332 } ] }