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Gustav Söderström.json•35.8 KiB
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"summary": "Gustav Söderström, co-president and chief product and technology officer at Spotify, discusses 14+ years building products at scale. He explains the evolution from curation to recommendation to generation models, how Spotify moved away from squads to VP-level autonomy, principles for designing AI products including fault-tolerant UIs, the story behind their contested homepage redesign, and learnings about balancing recall versus discovery. He shares perspectives on organizational structure, product bets, communicating clearly, and the future of AI-generated music.",
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"text": "When you're renting expensive brain power by hiring smart people, giving them no autonomy doesn't maximize your investment. You should either give them freedom to think or hire less smart people.",
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"text": "Autonomy at the leaves (individual teams) creates heat and conflicting strategies. Autonomy at the top (one person) bottlenecks everything. The sweet spot is autonomy at the VP level.",
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"text": "The AI DJ works because it solves the 'zero intent' use case—when you don't know what you want at all. Radio was bad at many things but good at this: you could switch contexts quickly.",
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