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Dr. Fei Fei Li.json•37.9 KiB
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"summary": "Dr. Fei-Fei Li, known as the godmother of AI, discusses her pivotal role in bringing AI out of the AI winter through ImageNet, a dataset of 15 million labeled images that enabled the deep learning revolution. She explains how spatial intelligence and world models represent the next frontier in AI, complementing language models and enabling breakthroughs in robotics, virtual production, and scientific discovery. She shares her philosophy on responsible AI development, emphasizing that technology's impact depends on human choices, and introduces Marble, World Labs' first product that allows users to generate and interact with infinitely explorable 3D worlds.",
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"title": "The Delightful Details: Dots as UX Feature",
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"context": "Describing the fundamental ingredients of modern AI breakthroughs",
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"text": "Technology is a net positive for humanity historically, but every technology is a double-edged sword. The outcome depends entirely on whether we, as individuals and society, do the right thing.",
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"text": "The most critical overlooked ingredient in AI was big data. The field focused on mathematical models but missed that both human learning and evolution are big data learning processes.",
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"text": "In 2015-2016, some tech companies avoided using the word AI because they were unsure if it was a dirty word. By 2017, companies started calling themselves AI companies. By 2026, you can't not be an AI company.",
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"text": "AGI is more a marketing term than a scientific term. The foundational question Alan Turing asked in the 1940s about whether machines can think remains the true north star of the field.",
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"text": "Current AI cannot perform tasks a toddler could do, like counting chairs in a video. It cannot derive equations like Newton, nor show emotional intelligence in complex human interactions.",
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"text": "Scaling data, GPUs, and model size alone won't get us 10x smarter models. We need fundamental innovations in world models, spatial reasoning, and other domains beyond language.",
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"text": "Robotics is fundamentally different from language models. Language has perfect alignment between training data (tokens) and output (tokens), but robots need action data in 3D worlds, which is scarce.",
"context": "Explaining why the bitter lesson (scale wins) has limits for robotics",
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"text": "Robots are closer to self-driving cars than language models. They require physical bodies, application scenarios, and mature supply chains. Self-driving took 20 years and they're 2D in simpler domains.",
"context": "Reality check on robotics timeline given physical constraints",
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"text": "The human brain operates on 20 watts—dimmer than most light bulbs—yet can do so much. This respect for biological intelligence grows as AI researchers work deeper in the field.",
"context": "Humility about machine capabilities relative to human cognition",
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"id": "i12",
"text": "Marble is fundamentally different from video generation models because it creates genuine 3D spatial structures that users can explore, reason within, and interact with, not just passive sequences.",
"context": "Core innovation of World Labs' product",
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"text": "The dot visualization feature that appears before world rendering was an intentional human-centered design choice, not part of the model itself, but it significantly enhanced user delight and understanding.",
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"text": "Early product launches reveal unexpected use cases. Marble was designed for creators, but users found applications in psychology research, exposure therapy, robotic simulation, and more.",
"context": "Strategy for discovering product-market fit",
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"text": "Virtual production with Marble achieved 40X acceleration in time-to-completion for VFX, enabling directors and technical artists to iterate rapidly on visual concepts.",
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"text": "Intellectual fearlessness is more important than optimizing every dimension when choosing roles. Young talent should focus on passion, mission alignment, and team quality over perfect job fit.",
"context": "Career advice based on Dr. Li's own trajectory",
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"text": "Every person—musicians, teachers, nurses, farmers, citizens—has a role in AI. Technology should augment human dignity and agency, not replace it or diminish human voice in governance.",
"context": "Democratic vision of AI's relationship to society",
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"text": "AI should greatly augment healthcare workers, not replace them. Nurses are overworked and fatigued; robotic assistance and smart cameras can extend human capability as society ages.",
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"text": "Building world models requires both deep technical R&D and serious productization integrated together. A team of 30 (mostly researchers and engineers) uses significant GPU resources for frontier model development.",
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"text": "The most surprising aspect of founding was the intensity of competition for talent and the cost structures Dr. Li didn't anticipate. Paranoia and constant alertness are necessary in modern AI landscape.",
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"text": "Humans use spatial intelligence for far more than robots: designing machines, buildings, homes, and discoveries like DNA's double helix structure. Spatial reasoning is fundamental to human creativity.",
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"text": "HAI became the world's largest human-centered AI institute by spanning eight schools (medicine, education, sustainability, business, engineering, humanities, law) and hundreds of faculty.",
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"text": "Silicon Valley and tech companies didn't engage with policymakers in Washington, Brussels, or elsewhere. This gap motivated HAI to create policy programs bridging the technologist-government divide.",
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"text": "Object recognition was chosen as the foundational north star problem because humans interact with the world at the object level, not molecular or atomic levels. This shapes our perception.",
"context": "Philosophical basis for ImageNet's focus on objects",
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"id": "i25",
"text": "Taking risks on tenure clock to go to Stanford with passionate people, becoming first female director of SAIL, going to Google—all driven by mission and community, not fear of failure.",
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"explicit_text": "At Airbnb, I still remember when Figma came out and how much it improved how we operated as a team.",
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"confidence": "high",
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"PM",
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"id": "ex2",
"explicit_text": "2012 was the moment that many people think was the beginning of the deep learning or birth of modern AI because a group of Toronto researchers led by Professor Geoff Hinton, participated in ImageNet Challenge, used ImageNet big data and two GPUs from NVIDIA",
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"id": "ex3",
"explicit_text": "I was in a conversation in one of the early days, I think is in the middle of 2015, middle of 2016, some tech companies avoid using the word AI because they were not sure if AI was a dirty word.",
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"explicit_text": "I remember that was one of my first courses at Caltech is called neural network, but it was very painful. It was still smack in the middle of the so-called AI winter",
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"low funding",
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"explicit_text": "I remember Alex Wang from Scale very early days. I probably still has his emails when he was starting Scale. He was very kind. He keeps sending me emails about how image that inspired Scale.",
"inferred_identity": "Alex Wang, founder of Scale AI",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
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"lesson": "Foundational research (ImageNet) directly inspired commercial ventures. Maintaining relationships and showing appreciation to mentors matters in building ecosystem.",
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"explicit_text": "We curated very carefully, 15 million images on the internet, created a taxonomy of 22,000 concepts, borrowing other researchers' work like linguists work on WordNet",
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"22,000 concepts",
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"id": "ex7",
"explicit_text": "If you give AI all the data including modern instruments data of celestial bodies, which Newton did not have, and give it to that and just ask AI to create the 17th century set of equations on the laws of bodily movements. Today's AI cannot do that.",
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"creativity gap"
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"explicit_text": "If you look at a student coming to a teacher's office and have a conversation about motivation, passion, what to learn, what's the problem that's really bothering you. That conversation, as powerful as today's conversational bots are, you don't get that level of emotional cognitive intelligence from today's AI.",
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"confidence": "low",
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"emotional intelligence",
"mentorship",
"AI limitations",
"empathy",
"human connection",
"nuance"
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"lesson": "AI chatbots lack the emotional and contextual intelligence needed for meaningful mentoring. Complex human relationships require understanding motivation, passion, and deep personal context.",
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"explicit_text": "Demis had this really interesting interview recently from DeepMind slash Google where someone asked him just like, 'What do you think, how far are we from AGI?'",
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"id": "ex10",
"explicit_text": "large language models that came out of the research world and then OpenAI and all this, for the past few years, were extremely inspiring even for a researcher like me. I remembered when GPT2 came out, and that was in, I think, late 2020.",
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"explicit_text": "Percy Liang and Chris Manning. We were talking about how critical this technology is going to be and the Stanford AI Institute, Human-Centered AI Institute, HAI, was the first one to establish a full research center foundation model.",
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"foundation models",
"academic research",
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"explicit_text": "I did a lot of robotics research and it dawned on me that the linchpin of connecting the additional intelligence, in addition to language embodied AI, which are robotics, connecting visual intelligence, is the sense of spatial intelligence about understanding the world. And that's when I think it was 2024, I gave a TED talk about spatial intelligence at world models.",
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"explicit_text": "And that's when we founded this company called World Labs. And you can see the word world is in the title of our company because we believe so much in world modeling and spatial intelligence.",
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"explicit_text": "I chose to come to Stanford because... I love Princeton. It's by alma mater. It's just at that moment there are people who are so amazing at Stanford and the Silicon Valley ecosystem was so amazing that I was okay to take a risk of restarting my tenure clock.",
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"explicit_text": "Becoming the first female director of SAIL, I was actually relatively speaking a very young faculty at that time, and I wanted to do that because I care about that community.",
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"explicit_text": "I think if you look at the history of self-driving car, my colleague Sebastian Thrun took Stanford's car to win the first DARPA challenge in 2006 or 2005. It's 20 years since that prototype of a self-driving car being able to drive 130 miles in the Nevada desert to today's Waymo",
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"explicit_text": "one of the most important piece in DNA's discovery history is the x-ray diffraction photo that was captured by Rosalind Franklin... But with that 2D flat photo, the humans, especially two important humans, James Watson and Francis Crick... was able to reason in 3D space and deduce a highly three-dimensional double helix structure of the DNA.",
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